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A Card Counter’s Guide: Where to Sit at the Blackjack Table

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How much does it affect your edge whether you sit first, in the middle, or last at the blackjack table?
Find out the mathematical answer, along with some considerations when choosing where to sit as a card counter.

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  1. 3:53 catch the dealers bottom card…this is so true, and I accidentally found this out in my earlier days of BJ. Weaker dealers sometimes accidentally expose their burn card and bottom card. And first base is usually the seat to catch a glimpse

  3. Third base is where a lot of CC's go and the pit bosses will be eyeing the position as well. You can sit second last and throw in some stupid losses in so not to attract these guys whose job is to make sure the casino only wins. Its not gambling, its losing !! when you cant play the casino at its own game. Be smart, dont play unless you really KNOW how to….

  4. Your stoned dude.
    The only seat is seat one (1). Trying to predict the first card is really the whole game…. no?

  5. in the far east, we only have csms, i have not seen a shoe game… i found most profit on sitting first base though… playing against the dealer one on one is the worst …

  6. You obviously shouldn't be using monte carlo simulations. Certainly not when it's something that you ought to be able to solve mathematically rather than trying a bunch of random trials of it. Monte carlo methods are the loser's way out to any calculation. It should be a last recourse if you can't do a calculation ANY OTHER WAY. What this demonstrates is that your results are no good. I can tell you precisely how much difference it makes. It makes no difference in the bet SIZE you make, which must be determined before you make anyone gets any cards, but it makes a substantial difference in the deviations to basic strategy you make…. and makes it equivalent to a greater penetration equal to the average number of additional cards everyone to the right of you at the table gets past their first 2, TIMES the fraction of performance of card counting that comes from deviations in basic strategy and not from changing your bet size. That's it. You should be able to figure out what it does exactly, from that. And this is significant in a 2-deck game AND in a 6-deck game. It is QUITE significant in a 6-deck game if the cut-card is like 1 deck before the end, because then if there are 5 people at the table, it's like the difference between a penetration of 5 decks leaving 1 deck left, or 5.2 decks leaving 0.8 deck left… but times about 0.2, the fraction of the advantage that comes from basic strategy deviations. Which is still a LOT. I wouldn't even PLAY at a 6 deck game if the cut-card was 2 decks before the end, there would be no point. It makes a LOT of difference where the cut-card is, if it's 1 deck before the end, or if it's 0.8, because right at the end of the playable shoe is where the standard deviation of the truecount is the most…. AND it's where you're most likely to be making a BIG bet, and that also means that it is the point where it is most critical that you do the most accurate deviations to basic strategy.

    So no, you're dead wrong, and you're doing your simulations wrong, or you didn't do a large enough quantity of the simulations. Also, generally I don't get a choice between tables based on number of players at them, there's only 1 or maybe 2 tables with the conditions I want, I'm not going to play free bet blackjack or spanish 21 or lucky ladies just because there are 3 people at the table I want and I want to play alone.

  7. I'll switch seats or move tables if the spot I'm playing is cold. I had a session where I played 8 different spots and couldn't catch anything. You will come across those every now and then unfortunately.

  8. when it comes to avoiding flak from gamblers… it really doesn't matter where you sit. They always find something to complain about in the way you play. I was recently at a casino, and I was criticized for not playing through the entire suite. ( I stopped when the count was very low)

  9. When cards are dealt face down I prefer the middle seat I can see more cards in the middle. Also if a player doubles for less I like to make up the difference and win or lose with them.

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