Gambling With an Edge – blackjack player, Socrates

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Our guest this week is an AP who goes by the name Socrates.

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Show Notes

[00:00] Introduction of Socrates, AP and golfer
[00:30] Will there be a slot round table on GWAE?
[02:32] Making money golfing
[03:56] Building a bankroll
[07:02] How did people attempt to hustle Socrates?
[08:38] Betting serious money at golf
[09:25] Cheating
[11:27] Winning at golf versus winning at a casino
[14:52] How does Socrates’ wife feel about his advantage plays?
[15:38] Getting started in advantage play
[16:18] Learning to play blackjack
[19:09] Losing streak
[20:10] Getting backed off locally
[23:01] Learning to hold card
[25:59] Meeting another counter
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[29:39] Team play
[30:41] More on Socrates’ progression
[32:27] Finding hole card games
[33:48] Team play with his wife
[34:34] Playing with a full-time job
[36:52] Bad back-offs
[40:46] Lessons learned
[45:08] Getting backed off at the men’s club
[49:48] Traveling with money
[51:25] Recommended – Global Entry, Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell, The Almanack of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson

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Books Referenced:
Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder


Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell

The Almanack of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson

Gambling With an Edge is a weekly radio show dedicated to making you a better gambler tomorrow than you were yesterday. The hosts, Bob Dancer, and Richard Munchkin are both authors and professional gamblers. You can learn more about them at

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9 thoughts on “Gambling With an Edge – blackjack player, Socrates

  1. Make people learn on there own. No need to create more competition… example– never draw a map to a gold mine..

  2. Most gamblers should lose for a few years until they can figure out how to win. That way they will also appreciate it more and also find it is quite boring..

  3. Don’t think Richard totally bought into how certain aspects of his stories added up.

  4. What's a good casino game to play professionally for a new gambler? It has to be a money earner ☺️

  5. Where d,id they drag this bloke from. I find him totally unreliable & don't buy his story. e.g. Canadian hustler golfer didn't win much coz I won 9 outa 10. REALLY? And you still lost?

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