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In this difficult river decision George flops the nuts and plays it fast. He raises his opponent both on the flop and on the turn but when the flush comes in his opponent leads into him. Should he call for a chop or a bluff catch given the pot odds?
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Why not jam the turn when we are essentially nutted to deny equity and potentially fold out a chop
I'm definitely raising huge on the turn, if not jamming. Charge the flush draw the maximum.
cooler hand bad!
You need to fold or push him off. You are such a week player letting him get there.
Jam flop next time, you have the nuts, when better to jam? It went raise call, obviously someone is drawing to the nut straight / flush. The board is connected, and draw heavy, jamming is the only way to get max value and chase off draws. They will also hesitate to chase draws versus you next time, cos it will always be for their stacks.
From my limited experience, when people do these donk block bets to set a price, which does happen a lot in smaller stakes, and the obvious draws come in and they "bomb" it (or at least bet much more then blocked bet for) then they usually got there. It's just (especially in this hand), they wanted to chase their draw for cheap, not really run a bluff – hence all the passive play (check/call flop bet/raise, lead smallish on turn, just call raise). What other hands besides draws play like this except maybe sets who wanna boat up, and most people don't bluff with sets (especially when we could be going crazy with a flush draw ourselves). I think this hand was played perfectly until the river when we didn't really follow the logical conclusion of our opponent's range.
I wouldn't expect many players to call a raise on the turn with a straight, to then lead out on the river when the flush hits.
In terms of pure math based odds villain calling turn is 100% justifiable. Even If villain didnt blocker bet on turn and checked, and lets say hero bet 36k the pot would be 97.6k , Villains call woukd actually be +EV without even requiring the need to take implied odds into consideration.
This is of course just the math, villain would need to be layed at least 2.67: 1 and was given 2.71: 1 on his money.
This is a pure cash game perspective.
Tournament translation and stack preservation plays pivotal Roles but if you ask me Id still play tournaments betting 2/3 to 3/4 pot charging draws because its all about laying your opp incorrect odds to call thats where your edges are. With respect to variance, well variance is variance doesnt matter if you manage to squeeze 100 hands of play by playing small ball bull versus betting strong on one hand.
Unless you have an incredible edge on reading players and are disciplined enough to fold river if he leads out, then no point in playing small ball.
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How can someone pay 10k to enter a tournament and call check raises on every street with just a flush draw